Right fella,,,

How can u time it up before you put the belt on?? :eh

 

There's a mark on the block that lines up with a mark on the water pump. Then slacken the tensioner off completely, and now the clever bit... turn the crank approx 1 tooth anti-clockwise. Start with the belt at the exhaust cam, down the front and round the roller, put it round the crank... now, use a peg to hold the belt on the exhuats pulley and turn teh crank clockwise to it timing mark, thus pulling the belt tight down the front edge... feed the remainder of the belt round the pulley and water pump and finally onto the inlet cam. Tension the belt as per normal.

Job done.

 

Right fella,,,

How can u time it up before you put the belt on?? :eh

???? you cant time it up with the belt on can you? it would turn all the pulleys wen im trying to turn one???
im confused

 

There's a mark on the block that lines up with a mark on the water pump. Then slacken the tensioner off completely, and now the clever bit... turn the crank approx 1 tooth anti-clockwise. Start with the belt at the exhaust cam, down the front and round the roller, put it round the crank... now, use a peg to hold the belt on the exhuats pulley and turn teh crank clockwise to it timing mark, thus pulling the belt tight down the front edge... feed the remainder of the belt round the pulley and water pump and finally onto the inlet cam. Tension the belt as per normal.

Job done.

cheers for the reply mate, was just wondering wen u say tension the belt as normal. its a spring loaded tensioner as u know, so how can u tension it? on the tensioner theres a clip that i have to push to slacken off the belt, i am meant to use this arent i??? god im so confused

 

There's a lump on the water pump that lines up with a similar lump on the engine block. These must be aligned so the belt tensions up correctly.

This could be the problem, or you've got a problem with your tensioner...

 

Is yours an early or late set up... plastic rollers or metal ones?

 

its the later engine, coil pack, the tensioner is metal and the rollers are plastic, hope that helps, and ideas then?

 

have you not got a haynes manual to follow. are you using the allen key in the tensioner to tighten up the belt. i cant exactly remember but do you have to lock these tensioners off.

 

Tensioner.... fit it up loosely then use an allen key to turn the cam, the pointer will then spring clockwise, keep going untill its within the marks on the tensioner casing. Hold it in place with the allen key and tighten up the 13mm to the specified torque.

Easier to do in practice...

 

???? you cant time it up with the belt on can you? it would turn all the pulleys wen im trying to turn one???
im confused

:eh.......:think

Now im confused....

 

I'm with you lad... what you mean is you're lining up the marks on the crank and the cam pulleys, then fitting the belt. As you correctly put, you can't time it up with the belt in place. You set it, then fit the belt.... although really if it'd been locked up before removing the old belt, it would still be spot on.

 

I'm with you lad... what you mean is you're lining up the marks on the crank and the cam pulleys, then fitting the belt. As you correctly put, you can't time it up with the belt in place. You set it, then fit the belt.... although really if it'd been locked up before removing the old belt, it would still be spot on.

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Thats better dude

 

hi you seem to have been give alot of conflicting info
there are two kinds of C20XE engines
one has the cambelt tensioned by the waterpump
the other uses a tensioner
i have the info on timing and tensioning both of these
if you would care to email or pm me you exact engine details i will supply you with the correct information for the accurate and correct way to fit and correctly tension the cambelt for your particular engine with or without the tensioner
regards
Steve

 

thanks for the replies every one, sorted it now, i had the water pump in the wrong place lol, all done now, just took me a while!

thanks again every one!

 

I've never see a C20XE belt tensioned by the water pump... and the only variation of XE is that the earlier ones have metal rollers and the later spec ones have plastic (in essence, ecotecs). Bar that the engines are indentical.

Likewise the old... don't but an ecotec because the belts snap and need done every 40k is utter bullshit too, as late spec XE used the same setup and also shared the 40k intervals.

Just Vauxhall didn't every admit this, the official line was "all multivalve petrol models from 1997 requires timing belt kit renewals every 40,000 miles" That was released to dealers in the year 2000, however what it failed to mention was that the last of the XE were also effected by this.

I would reconsider the information you have

 

I've never see a C20XE belt tensioned by the water pump... and the only variation of XE is that the earlier ones have metal rollers and the later spec ones have plastic (in essence, ecotecs). Bar that the engines are indentical.

Likewise the old... don't but an ecotec because the belts snap and need done every 40k is utter bullshit too, as late spec XE used the same setup and also shared the 40k intervals.

Just Vauxhall didn't every admit this, the official line was "all multivalve petrol models from 1997 requires timing belt kit renewals every 40,000 miles" That was released to dealers in the year 2000, however what it failed to mention was that the last of the XE were also effected by this.

I would reconsider the information you have

Agree on that,,, NEVER seen an XE tensioned by pump either,,, in fact,, they DONT....

 

its only the 8v that has 2 types, the earlier using the water pump to tension and the later using a tension with the water pump fixed in one place

 

looked in the haynes manual and whjat i had done wrong was position the water pump in the wrong place, i didnt realise it had a marking on it that enlines it with the block, because the pulley on the pump is not in the middle it was pulling the belt too much if u know what i mean, i really struggled to get the belt even close before i moved the pump and set the tensioner, cheers for all your help