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Update on Viavro, i picked the van up on Friday after Arnold Clark had it since before Christmas and found they had sealed the scuttle panel, during this period i had spoken to the service department several times and had been told they were checking for seized injectors etc. at one point they told me i may need a new engine. However i picked it up and drove home, tried to start it yesterday and it turned over about three times but wouldn't start, tried that a few times and now have a flat battery. Some welcome to Vivaro life !

Just been reading there are cold start issues, someone please tell me things get better with Vivaros !!!!!!
 

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Mine is a 2011 vivaro just had all injectors changed by vauxhall, turns out that wasnt the only problem. There is low compression in cylinder 1 but that's not covered under the warranty apparently, so when driving it back home, I knew it wouldn't be great but after a mile check injection message comes on!!! Nightmare
 

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Hi, here is my ongoing injector problems.
I have a Primastar on an 07 plate. Only done 45000 miles.
December 2014 broke down, 2 injectors failed. Contacted Nissan, very good, got Vospers (Nissan approved) (only one local) to replace all 4 injectors and seal scuttle. Nissan paid for the lot even though van was 7years old as is has low mileage. Got van back beginning of January 2015.

So to now,
Van broke down, recovery didn't do diagnostic but thought probably injector related, towed to my local independent garage.
Seal on injector 2 failed, so replacement was done. Van still misfiring.
Garage advised I contact Nissan, so I did and they said 12 month warranty on part has passed. We are now only covering vehicles with full dealer service history, which mine doesn't have. They advised to contact Vospers to let them know what was going on. Their reply was again that the part only has 12 month warranty which has passed. Vospers also said the work was warranty work for Nissan so if there is a problem Nissan should contact them directly. Nissan have said to keep them posted but I believe they are passing me off to try and get rid of me.
In the meantime my van misfire fault was diagnosed as failed injector 3 so local garage replaced and van runs fine. I now have a large bill!

I have been advised that is simply not good enough that an injector has failed after 13/14 months after only covering 9000 miles.

I have a copy of the invoice that Vospers sent to Nissan. One thing I noticed was it says Reman injectors.
Does this mean remanafactured?
If so surely they should of used NEW injectors?

I love the van but cannot keep if this problem is going to happen with other injectors.
Puts me off buying another Nissan again!

Please can I have peoples advise/thoughts on this.

Cheers
 

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Also, it looks like mine has a bit of extra rubber on the guttering at the bottom of the window. I'll try pouring water down the windscreen and seeing where it goes. I'm just trying to work out if the 2013 vans exhibit the same problem as the older vans - i.e. what have I got to look forward to in a few years when an injector fails...
Yep 2013 vans have this problem! i had my ijnjectors done under warranty in december last year and this weekend 23/4/16 the faults back again. they not seized yet though and ive just done the scuttle fix! fingers crossed it goes away!
 

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If your Mechanical minded you can test the Injectors. Set a multimeter to 20k Ohms and your looking for a reading of 170-210 resistance. Any less and you have a shorting injector. Otherwise its probably ok and possibly a loom fault.
 

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Hi everyone,

I'm new in here and reading some of your comments has me concerned!

I have a Vivaro 14 plate with no issues so far, do I need to take this to a main dealer to get the water ingress problem looked at? I couldn't see if this effects the 2014 vivaro's.

Also anyone any good at fault finding??? I also have a Vauxhall Movano Luton 2.5 CDTI

Van broke down last week so I had it recovered to the so called diesel specialists Hickleys in Bridgwater, £360 later and all they can tell me is I have an engine fault and they cannot fix the issue, they tested the injectors and they were all ok.

Feeling pretty seen off!!!

Vauxhall Movano 2.5 CDTI - 2011

Symptoms are severe loss of power, no warning lights, engine starts but is missing and shakes when idle, temperature is good, it did have black smoke coming from the exhaust but this has stopped, you can rev the engine only if you lightly hold your foot on accelerator but it drops as soon as you lift the clutch.

Any ideas anyone?

Kev
 

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Hi kev, Is your vivaro a new shaped one ore the old one? I have a 13 plate and had lots of injector faults about thias time last year. I must have taken it to Yeovil Vauxhall 5 times before they reluctantly changed the injector rail and cleaned the injectors. This was due to the scuttle problem where water gets inand drips onto the engine head and eventually works into the injectors. I fixed this problem by cleaning the area around the injectors myself and then carried out a scuttle fix. There is a thread somewhere on here that i followed. took a few hours but since then ( January this year) ive had no problems and i have no water at all getting in. Vauxhall said even though i have a M9R engine which is those worse affeced they have resolved the problem and that 13 onwards are not affeced which from my experenance they clearly are. Give me a shout if you need help with the scuttle fix and il have a look round for it. Cant help with the Movano though i have had no dealings with them! the Vivaro is my 1st van.

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Hi kev, Is your vivaro a new shaped one ore the old one? I have a 13 plate and had lots of injector faults about thias time last year. I must have taken it to Yeovil Vauxhall 5 times before they reluctantly changed the injector rail and cleaned the injectors. This was due to the scuttle problem where water gets inand drips onto the engine head and eventually works into the injectors. I fixed this problem by cleaning the area around the injectors myself and then carried out a scuttle fix. There is a thread somewhere on here that i followed. took a few hours but since then ( January this year) ive had no problems and i have no water at all getting in. Vauxhall said even though i have a M9R engine which is those worse affeced they have resolved the problem and that 13 onwards are not affeced which from my experenance they clearly are. Give me a shout if you need help with the scuttle fix and il have a look round for it. Cant help with the Movano though i have had no dealings with them! the Vivaro is my 1st van.

Andy

You think I'm gonna take any advice from a wafu???

It's the old style Vivaro mate and thanks for the heads up, I will have a Google and look into whether I need this scuttle fix and give you a shout if I get stuck

You would think I would know more about this stuff being an ex grubber!

Kev
 

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As an ex grubber you should know that advice from AVs are gospel! Here is the thread for the scuttle:
The sealants, foam strip and draught excluder can be got from screw fix easily. The trim clips nearly always break. I got replacements online from E bay i think.
Id do it just for peace of mind. M9Rs tend to throw up Injectors faults around 70000 onwards.

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/index.php?threads/vivaro-maintenance-and-faults.341088/page-11

Which Sqns were you on?

Andy
Haha

Cheers Andy, I will check it out before I get any trouble.

815 sqn and done a bit of sea dodging time on B section

Thanks for the info fella
 

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Hello fellow members. Just joined as i've just bought a Vivaro 2900 Cdti Lwb. 61 Plate. Bit concerned about the injector problem! I had heard about this before i purchased my van but was assured it was corrected on the 61 plated vans. By what i can see this is not the case! I have only had the van for 2 days, bought from a local van dealer not Vauxhall dealer. Should i get it checked out before my 3 months warranty runs out? Any advice would be much appreciated. By the way the milage is 125,00.
 

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Whats to check?
It must be running ok or you wouldnt have bought it.
If its running ok and no eml light then i would leave well alone.....may be worth a diagnostic though which will only display historic faults.
 

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Thanks for your quick response to my question. Yes runs very well and coming from a Transit 53 plate it is lovely to drive. I may just get it checked out for piece of mind. Thanks again.
 

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Hello, I am new on here, but have found my way here after serious problems with Vauxhall customer care. I have a 2010 Vauxhall Vivaro, whilst non of the injectors are faulty, they are ceased in because of the corrosion problems with this model. recently the timing had gone out on the van, this may have damaged a valve inside the head. however we cant get into the head because of the ceased injectors. My local Vauxhall service centre doesn't believe the injectors will come out undamaged, they are basically quoting me the cost of new engine £6500 + vat, the reason is they are unsure to what other damage may exist inside the head, plus I will need replacement injectors.

Vauxhall customer care are refusing to remove and replace the injectors under the extended warranty, because they are not faulty, however they are ceased, need to come out and will be damaged. but their not faulty

a tech bulletin released august 2013 states

"Should water ingress result in the failure of the injectors or the corrosion and seizure of the injectors into the cylinder head, Vauxhall will fund the removal and replacement of the injectors as a goodwill gesture on vehicles up to 7 years old and 248,000 miles or reconsider the matter within the Technical Service bulletin schedules pertaining at the time of an earlier claim"

yet they are still refusing to remove and replace them under the warranty. my vehicle is under 7 years old and has 70000 miles on the clock inj2.jpg Inj1.jpg
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could really do with away forward here, as I need my van for my business, I have about £4000 left to pay on its finance and at the moment its worth about £300.


Kind Regards

Carl Rowley (also ex 815 wafu)
 

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What a terrible state your engines in , I've seen old boilers from steam locomotives look in better nick :(
So Vauxhall refuse to budge ?
 
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