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Heres a good question for all the Derv heads :lmao:

Im gonna be doing and engine swap in the next couple of days :think any tips, can the engine and gearbox come out together and i just swap the gearbox over or is there any other ways of doing it ? any help would be really appreciated :Cool2: :cool:
 

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What are you swapping and for what?

You can just unbolt the front subframe, struts and all, undo any pipes and bits and just drop the engine out the bottom of the car...then swap the engines and bolt it all straight back in...
 

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Sorry tis a Turbo diesel unit for a cavalier trying not to go down the subframe route but if its got to be done then ho hum :p
 

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You can lift the engine and gearbox out through the top - you will need an engine crane, a decent set of chains/hooks, and you'll have to remove the bonnet (put some marks on the hinges to aid refitting, or you could find yourself spending hours trying to get the bonnet realigned).

If your car has ABS, that makes it a bit more awkward as it gets in the way of separating the nearside driveshaft from the gearbox (unless you can apply enough pressure from underneath the car), and is another obstacle to avoid when lifting the engine out. It's easy to remove the ABS unit, especially if you have a brake-pipe nut spanner (available from Halfords) which minimises the chances of f***king-up the nuts as you try to undo them. Clearly, if you remove the ABS unit, you'll need to bleed the brakes once when refitted!
 

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your car has ABS, that makes it a bit more awkward as it gets in the way of separating the nearside driveshaft from the gearbox (unless you can apply enough pressure from underneath the car)

Will the drive shaft just pull out then ? or do i have to remove suspension legs :crying_2:
 

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The driveshaft will pull out, but you'll probably have to prise it off using something between the end of the shaft and the gearbox. The offside shaft has a small clip on it (should be replaced with a new one when refitting) and can be a pain to separate - I ended up making-up a 6-foot lever bar to do this! You might be lucky though....
 

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You can get the TD out without taking the gearbox out, which is handy if there's nothing worng with the gearbox and it's just the engine you are changing. It has to come out at quite a tight angle, and you have to remove both parts of the o/s engine mount (engine and chassis), the outer part of the crank pulley (The bit held on by 4x 12mm head bolts) and the water pump pulley. Then you can jiggle it off the gearbox and just slide it out :)
Just took mine out about an hour ago, not too bad of a job. Just remember to undo the exhaust from the turbo, otherwise you wonder why the car is following the engine up :rolleyes: :shake Ooops :lmao:

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You can get the TD out without taking the gearbox out, which is handy if there's nothing worng with the gearbox and it's just the engine you are changing. It has to come out at quite a tight angle, and you have to remove both parts of the o/s engine mount (engine and chassis), the outer part of the crank pulley (The bit held on by 4x 12mm head bolts) and the water pump pulley. Then you can jiggle it off the gearbox and just slide it out :)
Just took mine out about an hour ago, not too bad of a job. Just remember to undo the exhaust from the turbo, otherwise you wonder why the car is following the engine up :rolleyes: :shake Ooops :lmao:

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:lmao: just outta curiousity You got an engine crane ?? gotta try and source one unless it can be done without ? :mmmm
 

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Yeah, nabbed the one from work for an hour, don't think you'd be able to do it without one. Might be able to if there were enough of you and you were only lifting the bar block out, or if you could get a jack under it and raise it to about level with the slam panel, then it wouldn't take much to lift it off.

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Yeah, nabbed the one from work for an hour, don't think you'd be able to do it without one. Might be able to if there were enough of you and you were only lifting the bar block out, or if you could get a jack under it and raise it to about level with the slam panel, then it wouldn't take much to lift it off.

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ok cheers mate :Cool2:
 

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Soooo much easier with a hoist/crane though:up:

TD is a nice easy one as well, not much in the way of electronics, just a few pipes and its ready to come out!
 

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Took the oil drain plug out to drain the oil expecting oil (obviously) to come out *WRONG* about a litre of water came out :lmao: followed by oil :crying_2:
 

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oh dear , is the engine fine otherwise , if it is try a second hand oil cooler & a new seal , these have been known to cause odd probs on the td.
 

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Nah engine tis fooked :shame: gotta another to whack in on sunday, was just stripping it down to gain abit of knowledge :Cool2:
 

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Pulled the engine apart today, got everything out inc the pistons got 2 & 3 out and i was greeted by this





Sorry for the size im a lil dirty didnt wanna spend too much time on the pc :D
 

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Mmm, not ideal that mate :) It got a bit hot then did it?
You managed to sort out a replacement block and pistons yet?

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Mmm, not ideal that mate :) It got a bit hot then did it?
You managed to sort out a replacement block and pistons yet?

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A "bit" :lmao:

Gotta whole new engine to pick up tomorow, stripped it all down to make it easy to get the block out as i was on me own today :crying_2: got a crane and a few helping hands tomorow
 
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