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Hi everyone. I'm new to this forum and would be grateful for some help. Sorry if this is a bit long winded.

I have a 2003 Astra G with a 1.7 CDTI engine. I have had a small coolant leak (about 250ml every 2 weeks). I haven't been able to locate where it is coming from as I think it's that small it's evaporating as it leaks. It has just doubled to 500ml every 2 weeks. About 6 weeks ago I had an injector replaced as I was having trouble restarting the engine when it was already warm. This cured the problem. After this the engine began cutting out while at idle. Not often. It has happened about 5 or 6 times. On tuesday the missus was driving and it cut out at a roundabout. This time it wouldn't restart. Some people helped push her to the roadside. After about 10 mins it restarted.

I plugged it into a diagnostic and it came up with P1335. (engine speed sensor) The diagnostic also showed that while running the vehicle revs were 1500-1600rpm. The vehicles rev counter showed about 750rpm. When the vehicle cuts out the rpm on the diagnostic shows 32000rpm.

I took it to my local vauxhall dealer. They diagnosed camshaft sensor. Fitted a new one and told me that if it happened again it would be time for a new ECU.

It cut out again today.:shame:

I am thinking that they are wrong. Can anyone confirm what I think.

My thoughts are that the waterpump bypass hose is leaking onto the cranshaft sensor and causing a short. This causes the engine to cut out. If my thinking is right it would also put the onus of engine speed onto the cam sensor which rotating twice as fast as the crank would justify the double speed diagnostic reading.

The fault only occurs when the engine is warm. I can run the engine while scraping the frost/ice off the windscreen without it cutting out.

Any help or advise is greatfully received.

Thanks all.
 

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I've done a search and can't find a problem like mine. :(

Has anyone had problems with an astra with a 1.7 cdti engine cutting out? I am unwilling to go for a new ECU until I have exhausted all other avenues.
 

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Astra 1.7 CDTI cutting out

My 53 plate Astra 1.7 CDTI has been prone to cutting out also. Took it to my local Vauxhall dealer today who informed me that I did in fact have a faulty crankshaft sensor and this was causing the car to cut out so I would say you're right on the nail with your diagnosis.

Hoping to get my car back tomorrow with a new crankshaft sensor which I am getting replaced under sales warranty as I have only had the car for a week.

Good luck getting your Astra fixed. Keep me posted how you get on.

Andy.

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Cutting out

I have a 04 plate Astra CDTi. This weekend was driving 250 miles and the engine started cutting out - happened 6 times on the journey.

It was always at motorway speed, it would do a kangaroo hop, then a few minutes later would cut out. Each time it wouldn't start for a while, but after leaving it 10 mins, would start again fine, and I could carry on.

Vauxhall dealership wouldn't look at it over the weekend (took me an hour to get through to their service dept!), so took it to a little garage for diagnostics - it also gave a P1335 error.

I drove it home again without any problem though??
 

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I have a 04 plate Astra CDTi. This weekend was driving 250 miles and the engine started cutting out - happened 6 times on the journey.

It was always at motorway speed, it would do a kangaroo hop, then a few minutes later would cut out. Each time it wouldn't start for a while, but after leaving it 10 mins, would start again fine, and I could carry on.

Vauxhall dealership wouldn't look at it over the weekend (took me an hour to get through to their service dept!), so took it to a little garage for diagnostics - it also gave a P1335 error.

I drove it home again without any problem though??
Mine is doing exactly the same, i'd be really interested in knowing what it is if you get it sorted out. Mine goes on long motorway journeys, the AA man says it's most probally the exhaust recycle valve. He reset the code and it's running fine locally i just don't have the nerve to go on the motorway!!!. It's in at vauxhall at 2pm but i'm not hopefull they will find the problem
 

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Hi Mate

did you find out what was wrong with your car, mine is doing exactly the same and i'd be really interested in knowing what was wrong with yours

thanks

paul


Hi Paul. No progress yet. Because the non-Vauxhall garage cleared the fault, the Vauxhall guys recommended that I carry on driving it to see if the fault occurs again - which it hasn't. Then they will have an error to work on at least. Vauxhall do a Tech-Check service, but I don't want to pay for that until there is a fault in the memory. Have you had this done yet?

The Vauxhall man suggested that it was bad fuel causing the problem, but I doubt that because it stopped happening on the same tank of fuel. It may be something like a dirty fuel filter, but I guess its a sensor fault instead. He thought a faulty crankshaft sensor might cost about £150, but I suggested that problem to him - it wasn't something that he thought would be the problem.

On my return trip (when the problem didn't happen) I was driving the car differently to see if it helped. Normally I drive with fuel efficiency in mind, but on the way home I kept putting my foot to the floor for a while, just to keep the fuel flowing...

Have you got any ideas? Does your car do the kangaroo hop as well before cutting out? What things have you tried? How many times has it cut out on you? And does it only happen when driving at speed, or when idling as well?

This is the 2nd 04 plate Astra I've driven - the first one had an unknown fault with the turbo. Nobody could fix that either! I'm not liking the Astras much anymore...

Thanks,
Jon
 

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The same thing happened to me the AA man cleared my fault code and i've just been out in mine and it's done the same 3 times becoming more frequent. i'f i leave it 5 minutes it starts up again!! however no fault is showing. What i'm going to do is clean all the pipes from the turbo to the EGR valve including removing the egr valve for cleaning and replacing the gaskets. as recommended by vauxhall. I'm also going to change the diesel filter. Strange you mantioned fuel i filled up at morrisons for the first time ever and the AA man did mention that they are renowned for causing problems with the common rail engined cars with there fuel!!!. I've only had the problems on this tank of fuel!!!

it may be a coinsidence but i very much doubt it.

I'm going to get on with it tomorrow as vauxhall didn't have the gaskets in stock. i'll let you know if it fixes the problem

regards

Paul


Thanks for the update. Its funny that its the first time you've used Morrissons fuel - its the first time for me as well! Maybe just a coincidence?

Jon
 

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I contacted Morrisons Customer Services to see if they've received other complaints about their diesel... there weren't at all helpful (to be expected I suppose). They couldn't tell me if there were other complaints across the country - I had to specify a particular store for them to check. I mentioned Totton and Doncaster, but neither had had any other complaints lodged.

When I asked how to lodge a complaint I was told that it had to be in writing, with a copy of the fuel receipt, and a diagnostics read out from a garage. It had to be sent to the Morrison's insurance department. It seems to me that they've made the complaint process difficult so that people don't bother!

The problem still hasn't happened again for me, and I've done some motorway driving for a couple of days now too.
 

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Hi Jon

i'm at the end on my teather with mine. it's only going 12 miles and then cutting out, restarting after 5 minutes then going 6 miles then 3 then 1!!!!

i've removed and cleaned the egr valve put new gaskets on etc, i'm thinking it's now the injection pump ecu!!! or injection pump. it's perfect on tickover and doesn't cough or splutter at all, no smoke when heavy accerating etc.

i'm going to see a diesel pump specialist tomorrow and i'll keep you informed

regards

paul

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Paul,

Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble.

I've complained to Consumer Direct about the fuel - you can do it easily online. They wouldn't tell me if there had been other complaints because it is considered confidential.

However, I've just been contacted by someone at Trading Standards because my complaint was forwarded on to them by Consumer Direct... Trading Standards will be doing some analysis on the fuel at the garage I complained about - which suggests to me that they have received other complaints as well.

I'm just about to put my complaint in writing to Morrisons asking for a refund on the fuel, and to see if they will pay the garage costs. Make sure you keep any receipts for the work you do on your car. And I think you should put something in writing to Morrisons asap.

Jon
 

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I'm quite dissaponited no members on here can point us in the right direction. my cars been off the road for nearly a fortnight and i've tired most things. it's been on live feed and it's showing no faults apart from loss of rpm on live feed when it cuts out and when i try restarting it. Therefore it could be a faulty crankshaft sensor i've been told, i've ordered one and i should have it fitted later on
 

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An update on the possible fuel problem.

Trading Standards have explained that fuel manufacturers are allowed to mix upto 5% biodiesel in with their diesel without even declaring it. This tends to increase the water content in the diesel, so the filters will need changing more regularly.

Recently, there have been an increased number of complaints to Trading Standards regarding fuel, and it is likely to be connected with the fact that biodiesel mixtures is now allowed. This is supposedly another good idea from the government that will save the world - I guess their plan is to discretly break everyones' cars.

He suggested (but was unable to actually advise) to avoid the supermarket fuel and stick with the big guys like Esso and Shell.
 

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Trading Standards have explained that fuel manufacturers are allowed to mix upto 5% biodiesel in with their diesel without even declaring it.
I bloody hope not!! I don't want any of that unregulated crap in my tank. I'm off to ask Shell what their position is on this as it's a bloody disgrace IMO. Any chance you can get more concrete proof of what they've told you as TS are known for talking **** sometimes and giving really harmful advice.

The oil trade have a similar "cheat" where they can claim it's Fully Synthetic despite it having some mineral oil in it - seems businesses can only survive by conning people nowadays - BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!!
 

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Update: I've just spoken to Shell technical dept and they uphold that 5% AME has to be included (EU directive I think). Fortunately, it's not strictly a biofuel but fatty acid ester (AME).
 

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mally/ratty, it does sound to me like your Crankshaft sensor is at fault, i would replace these and get any remaining fualt codes cleared
 

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I contacted Vauxhall Customer Services and they have confirmed that their engines will not experience any problems with the fuel/biodiesel mixtures. The maximum limit for their engines is 5%, but the average mixture is currently 2.5%.

I have now had my cranckshaft sensor replaced and have not had any reoccurance of the problem. ALL FIXED NOW.

THanks for everyones' input.

Jon
 

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astra 1.7 cdti

I.m having exactly the same problem. Car has been in garage for 2 weeks. Can someone tell me if when you replace the crankshaft sensor, you have to clear the fault codes? Got a feeling they didn't and therefore thought the fault was still there after replacement. Also this problem only started when i ran really low on fuel. Filled up at sainsburys and the car kept cutting out. So tried esso and didn't have any problems for a week. Filled up at shell and the problem returned. The garage has told me to pick the car up as they do not no what the problem is. Help someone
 

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Hi we cleaned out all the inlet and it was still cutting out. The fault code we had just meant it had been stalled. We replaced the crankshft sensor. The cheapest place was lookers and original part . on dont need to clear the code because we didnt Going bril now no problems at all. Hope this helps Julie
 
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