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Modern Peugeot, Citroen and Mini petrol engine.

Discussion in 'Other Car/Van Related Technical Information Required / Provided' started by brikhead, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. brikhead

    brikhead Well-Known User.

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    Has anyone else come across these engines before, they have been dubbed the Prince engine, and they are cak. The timing chains and cam phasers are cak, the friction drive for the waterpump is cak, the block is a very old design that was cak back in the late 80's and is still cak now.
    Did I mention that I think they are not very good?
    They are like that other god awful French diseasel 1.6 engine that is fitted to virtually EVERY diesel car on the road, soon there will only be 2 engines to choose from regardless of which Manufacturer you choose.
     
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    M32Guy M32 Specialist

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    See them all the time. Same with the 1.4 varient. You forgot to mention the injectors are cak, the turbos are cak, and servicing them is a major PITA
     
  3. steve barnes

    steve barnes VxON Club Member VxON Club Member

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    Just bought a 2003 peugeot 307 1.6 petrol last week with a TU5JP4 engine in, have to say compared to the vauxhall engine i have (z18xe) they are slightly more difficult to work on, more corroded, and seem to be a lot dirtier on the inards, not as quiet either. These were shared with citroen also, but i think the engine you refer is the 1.6HDi?, Everything is generally clipped in around the car even the front wing panels on the body. If your working under the car access is a pig because of the way everything is crammed in towards the back of the engine bay. Although it is more comfortable on the inside and easier to work on in there with most stuff just being clipped into place, it's only really the dash that's bolted down. Long socket extensions and a universal joint are a must for working on these. And i won't go into electrical demons when disconnecting the battery.
     
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    They are all more or less the same engine to be honest but with a dozen different variants to make getting parts fun. They have crammed everything into as tight a square block as possible so it can fit in as many different engine bays as possible. They've even managed to shoe horn the 1.4 into the 107/C1/Aygo's.
     
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    steve barnes VxON Club Member VxON Club Member

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    Noticed this in the week, there are 2 different exhaust manifolds for my model as learnt off the breaker yard and 5 variations of manifold to downpipe gaskets according to puegoet service box, i'm still not 100% i'm getting the right combination for my manifold as it's unclear, doesn't help in not having the originals in place when i took it off. There is a crush ring type that fits around the main connection to the cat and a flat square type that seals the outer edeges but they are used in different combos oddly enough. Just going to fit both as per service box and hope for the best, that's all i can do.
     

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