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Ford transit popping out of first gear

Discussion in 'Other Car/Van Related Technical Information Required / Provided' started by Pedrosquires, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Pedrosquires

    Pedrosquires Well-Known Member

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    Hey folks, just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone else has had similar issues. Offending vehicle is a 13 plate ford transit custom, 2.2 litre, 6 speed front wheel drive, 61000 on the clock. Keeps popping out of first gear when the clutch reaches top of travel, even tried holding the stick in gear whilst letting the clutch out but she goes with a bang, then a grind. It will go in ok, 4 out of every 10 ettempts and take off like usual, but over the last 3 weeks has been getting progressively worse. I've checked as much as I can without taking to much apart, but everything from the box to the stick looks OK. I have read some threads online about rust build up around the cable on the box end, preventing the selector on top traveling the required distance, but after a visual inspection, i cant imagine this being the case in this instance, as far as i can see thst is, don't want to loose myself in Google over this just yet!

    We're getting rid of this van in May, so would be nice not to have to take the box out of it before then!

    Any thoughts welcomed.

    Cheers

    Pete
     
  2. grant19841

    grant19841 Well-Known Member

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    Check the linkage for play,
    Also check the selector lever for excess play.

    Failing this it maybe gear internal like synchronizer,
    Or even a damaged clutch plate with bent fingers preventing the input shaft from its travel.

    Check all the obvious first before taking out the box.




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  3. Pedrosquires

    Pedrosquires Well-Known Member

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    Cheers grant, I do know the clutch isn't all to great on this one, its done a bit of towing this van too, and I've also heard a few rumbles coming out of the clutch in the past aswell as the boys have been heading out in it, will try and find some time to have a better look at what you mentioned before I give up and put it in the garage (y)
     
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    grant19841 Well-Known Member

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    Hope you sort it mate


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    Image above is the top of the box, seems to be oil around the selector arm thingy that goes into the box, I would imagine there shouldn't be any oil visible here, rest of the box is dry. Possible seal failure perhaps causing ill effects?
     
  6. grant19841

    grant19841 Well-Known Member

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    No oil should be present there, you sure it's coming from there?

    The selector - have you tried to put in all gears by hand? You may need to remove the cables for better movement and feel.


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  7. Pedrosquires

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    Aye it's coming from there alright, nothing above it that could drop onto it over time, nothing else near it that's tacky or dripping. Haven't removed cables yet, time hasn't been on my side today. Sitting in the cab, it does feel like it is coming against some kind of resistance, a spongy one at that. Breather pipe is ok, everything else looks like it should..my feeling now is to concentrate on the leak around the selector, and hunt for a diagram online of the boxes workings. Garage can't take it till Wednesday, so atleast I've got a few days left to try and diagnose it:rolleyes:
     
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    Looks like it's just had a blast of WD40 or similar in the past. You can see over-spray on other components.
     
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    It's oil unfortunately, only person that would of sprayed wd40 on it would of been me, as I'm the only person that ever lifts the hood, and I've had this thing since brand new. Only time it's been in the garage is for fuel gauge sensor card and new front pads. .Had it up on the ramps this morning, moving selectors by hand feels a little gritty, although I have nothing to compare it to. I've ruled out linkages, and now confident it may be the selector that is failing as 2nd gear also feeling akward now. Fun times :rolleyes:
     
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    May have to remove the selector to give it a service when u have time, maybe water has got in there.


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