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[Insignia] [08---] Drive Belt & The AA

Discussion in 'Cavalier, Calibra, Vectra, Signum, Sintra & Insignia owners forum' started by Mart36, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. Mart36

    Mart36 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys

    I need advice, and hoping I can find it here. Earlier this evening whilst out I stalled my insignia, the drive belt popped off. So, putting my AA membership to good use I called them out. The Mechanic turned up and put the belt back on! Started the car up and deemed it fine.

    About 10 mins after the AA mechanic leaving I had to pop out to the local supermarket to get some shopping, on the way I suddenly heard a slipping sound, then all of a sudden the car cut out, 'Service Vehicle soon' appeared on the dash, as I managed to pull into a pub car park. I attempted to restart the car, it tried to turn over and start but wouldn't start,. The belt that was on is now back off again and about as useful as a chocolate fireguard, additionally the car would start fine with the belt off, now its off again as i said, it wont start, just coughs and splutters when attempting to start. Firstly can I ask for any advice as to why it will no longer start.

    I called the AA back out to tow me back home as of all places the car park I pulled onto was Pay and Display, upon arrival he said, under no circumstances would he have put the belt back on. And determined that the cogs for the belt are out of alignment!?!?! But after having another look they are in perfect alignment, so god knows where he was looking, and I'm sure the cogs don't just go out of alignment.

    Recently, I was having problems with my power steering pipe, which was spraying fluid allover the belt, causing it to come off from time to time. Anyway, as the AA mechanic decided to put the belt back on, and now has caused further issues, what are my options, are the AA now liable to foot the repair bill? baring in mind a reliable AA mechanic should never have put the belt back on in the first place? As the recovery driver stated, 'He should never have put it back on, as it's come off for a reason' One more thing I did look at, I attempted to turn the cogs by hand, All turn, but the AC doesn't seem to move at all.

    Sorry for the long winded post but wanted to get as much info in as possible.
    Thanks in advance for any advice, especially advice on where I stand with the AA
     
  2. zee87

    zee87 Well-Known Member

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    My alternator belt snapped in central London on my insignia. I was stuck for over 5 hours from first call to AA if the belt does fail worth changing the belt pully tensioners or it may happen again.

    The power steering pipe failing was a common issue happened on mine didn't realise at the time how much of a fire hazzard it was.
     
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  3. Fred Bassett

    Fred Bassett Super Moderator Staff / Moderator VxON Club Member VxON Approved Trader

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    It's possible the AC pulley has seized & that would cause your auxiliary belt issues . Best get the car into a good garage so they can have look & see what's causing this . What other issues have you got since the belt jumped off ?
     
  4. Mart36

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    The car turns over, or tries too, but won't start. the starter is working, and I have been told there's no issues with the timing belt as there's compression there, and the car moves, The AC pulley just doesn't move.

    The aa guy that towed me home said the pulley on the alternator is out of alignment but looking at it, it's perfectly aligned.
     
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  5. Fred Bassett

    Fred Bassett Super Moderator Staff / Moderator VxON Club Member VxON Approved Trader

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    This all needs checking out before fitting a new auxiliary belt .
     
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  6. Mart36

    Mart36 Well-Known Member

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    just to update.

    I have been out to the car this afternoon, looking st possible causes, all pulleys rotate, apart from the pulley labelled 'CS' but I'm told this is for the compression and can't be turned by hand anyway?

    I personally thought the Timing belt had snapped but after checking that it's fine and where it should be and in good condition.

    The pulleys are all in alignment, however if they weren't the belt would of come off again as soon as it was put back on?


    Currently awaiting the AA to come back.
     
  7. Fred Bassett

    Fred Bassett Super Moderator Staff / Moderator VxON Club Member VxON Approved Trader

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    Ok perhaps one of the pulleys isn't running true due to wear causing float from side to side , this could cause the auxiliary belt to be flung off after some running .
     
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    AA have just been back, funnily enough the same mechanic they put the belt back on.

    Says it's compression. And the engine needs stripping to find the problem.
     
  9. Fred Bassett

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    Err ............ What ? So what does he thinks wrong with the compression?
     
  10. MikeSW17

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    without doing a compression test, just how the h*ck can he tell if it's a compression problem....
    Since your timing belt didn't come off/break, just the auxilliary belt, there's no reason the compression today isn't the same as yesterday or last week - unless by a million to 1 chance you've had two different failures happen together.
    Did he/you try using a battery jump-pack to start the car? I'm wondering if maybe your battery could be marginal and has dropped below good starting volts because the alternator was off.
    Petrol or Diesel?
    I would go through all the basic non-start procedures first: Check battery volts off and cranking.... (Petrol) dry ignition parts, check for spark, easy-start spray. fuel coming through? etc..
     
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